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January 1, 2007

Ful(ford) of It.

J
ames Fulford apparently doesn't think that his resurrection of the smear of Fred Korematsu ought to count as an instance of "invidious racism and hate" on VDare.com.

Fair enough. If you don't like that one, how do the following quotes from Mr. Fulford suit you?

"How are Americans supposed to tell the difference between Meiji and Taisho? ... Does that mean that the internment of the Japanese wasn’t so stupid after all?" -- National Origins Quotas or Moratorium?

"Of course, there is a simple answer to these problems: a National Origins system. Discriminate in favor of immigrants from civilized, culturally compatible countries. Alternatively, don’t have any immigrants at all." -- same article

"Do you realize that if you made all the guns in the U. S. vanish, New Mexico, Texas, and California would vanish the same day? The Mexicans would just come and get them." -- Reconquista, Terrorism, and Gun Control

"Why[, since 9/11/01,] have no mass deportations occurred, or even been proposed (except by the wonderful Ann Coulter)?" -- Why No "Ashcroft Raids?" (This one is really priceless -- a defense of the Palmer Raids that followed WWI.)

"When FDR interned and relocated Japanese and Japanese-Americans in WWII, he was responding to the massive sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. He was basing his decision on the well-known fact that blood is thicker than water, and that people frequently put loyalty to family and religion over loyalty to the state." -- Er ... Why Does Bush Have An Arab Bodyguard Anyway?

"Americans should take heed: the British Isles went from a nearly homogeneous society 60 years ago, to a society which is 12 percent non-white. It’s been a disaster." -- Flashman and the Politically Correct

"Invidious racism and hate" at VDare? Nah.

Posted by Eric at January 1, 2007 9:03 PM

Comments

I took the liberty to read the links you supplied to James Fulford's work. I have one word for them: Amen! Self defense is not invidious racism, it is sensible awareness. If other groups living in our midst have openly tribal outlooks (and as a California resident, I can attest they do) then we must adopt something of the same, or sign the death warrant of our society and its traditions.

Posted by: Brian at January 2, 2007 7:12 AM

I completely agree with Brian's comment. I have acquaintances of Latino descent who consider maintaining their culture to be 'preservation' of their heritage. But when it comes to maintaining my culture, because I am caucasian, they call it 'racism'. When I point out the irony in their attitudes, complete silence is the only response. Why is this?

Posted by: Kim at January 2, 2007 12:40 PM

But when it comes to maintaining my culture, because I am caucasian, they call it 'racism'.

Pray tell, what is "caucasian culture"? Irish? German? British? Lithuanian? French? Swedish? Last time I checked, *those* are cultures, and people who really care about those cultures do preserve them. But I don't know any "caucasian culture".

Posted by: paperwight at January 2, 2007 1:29 PM

Paperwright, you're just demonstrating your ignorance. Caucasian culture is concentrated primarily in Georgia, and clearly Kim is arguing for preservation of Georgian culture. Of course, Azerbaijan and Armenia are also in the Caucasus, so those countries' culture should probably be preserved as well.

Posted by: Ivan at January 2, 2007 9:06 PM

Paperwright, you're just demonstrating your ignorance. Caucasian culture is concentrated primarily in Georgia, and clearly Kim is arguing for preservation of Georgian culture. Of course, Azerbaijan and Armenia are also in the Caucasus, so those countries' culture should probably be preserved as well.

Ah, of course. It's the cultures of the Caucasus that VDARE is interested in preserving and which people like Kim and Brian are defending. I did not know that "Kim" and "Brian" were common names in Central Asia. My ignorance is somewhat lessened. Thank you, Ivan.

[Yes, I know Ivan is joking.]

Posted by: paperwight at January 2, 2007 10:00 PM

Korean Americans and Japanese Americans are both allowed to have "Asian Pride" even though they came from different cultures. Mexicans are allowed to have Hispanic Pride and take pride in all the accomplishments from people of various latin American countries. How is it any less logical to have caucasian or european pride.

In fact it makes much more sense, as America is in some sense a nation of immigrants--European immigrants. Look at JFK's book that y'all open borders folks love so much, he only talks about the achievements of Europeans.


"whence came all these people? They are a mixture of English, Scotch, Irish, French, Dutch, Germans, and Swedes... What, then, is the American, this new man? He is neither an European nor the descendant of an European; hence that strange mixture of blood, which you will find in no other country. I could point out to you a family whose grandfather was an Englishman, whose wife was Dutch, whose son married a French woman, and whose present four sons have now four wives of different nations. He is an American, who, leaving behind him all his ancient prejudices and manners, receives new ones from the new mode of life he has embraced, the new government he obeys, and the new rank he holds. . . . The Americans were once scattered all over Europe; here they are incorporated into one of the finest systems of populations which has ever appeared." -Hector St. Jean de Crevecoeur, Letters from an American Farmer.


"America is Gods Crucible, the great Melting Pot where all the races of Europe are melting and reforming!"- Israel Zangwill

Posted by: Alex at January 3, 2007 12:33 AM

Paperwight and Ivan could not be more sophomoric. For historical reasons white folks are called caucasians. And yes, there really is a common white culture, along with several variants, in the United States. Self-haters seem to have no trouble recognizing it when they call something 'white bread' , or 'white trash' or WASP , etc. To deny its existence is both to deny reality.

Posted by: Mitchell Young at January 3, 2007 3:44 AM

And yes, there really is a common white culture, along with several variants, in the United States. Self-haters seem to have no trouble recognizing it when they call something 'white bread' , or 'white trash' or WASP , etc. To deny its existence is both to deny reality.

Really? And what are some of its hallmarks? How is it definitively "white" as opposed to, say, "Swedish"? What exactly is being "preserved" by bigots like VDARE?

Korean Americans and Japanese Americans are both allowed to have "Asian Pride" even though they came from different cultures. Mexicans are allowed to have Hispanic Pride and take pride in all the accomplishments from people of various latin American countries. How is it any less logical to have caucasian or european pride.

Except that those specific nationalities you cite actually are specific nationalities with their own cultures, and while they might have "Asian pride" (whatever that means), it takes the form of interest in and preservation of their specific cultures to some extent. I can see "Norwegian Pride", at least to the extent that it includes things like lefke and funny clothes (as opposed to claims of Norwegian superiority). By contrast, "white pride" almost always seems to take the form of purely race-based assertions of superiority and ranting about the brown people. Why is that?

The fear some white people have of losing their position of privilege is fascinating.

Posted by: paperwight at January 3, 2007 5:20 PM

I find it interesting that 'paperweight' takes on the assertion that my pride in my caucasian heritage (Do you ask Latinos to define specifically which form of Latino pride they are partaking - Mexican, Cuban, etc.?)is 'purely a race-based assertion of superiority or merely 'fear of losing a position of privilege'...exemplifying the bias that always seems to accompany any notion of 'white pride'.

Posted by: Kim at January 9, 2007 5:44 AM