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May 8, 2006

Confederate "Leadership": When Was Enough Enough?

G
lenn Reynolds quotes an encomium to the Confederate military which includes the claim that it "gave every ounce of courage and loyalty to a leadership it trusted and respected, and then laid down its arms in an instant when that leadership decided that enough was enough."

Depends what you mean by "leadership." The Confederate Commander in Chief, President Davis, wanted the Confederate army to keep on fighting after the fall of Richmond and after Appomattox, and even to dissolve into the hills in order to engage in protracted guerrilla warfare against an occupying Union force.

It was the military leadership (Lee and especially Johnston, who unlike Lee had a reasonable shot at a successful break for the mountains), who defied the political leadership and decided that "enough was enough."

(Just finished reading April 1865, by the way, which is what leads me to post on this.)

UPDATE: Welcome, Instapundit readers! While you're here, please take a moment to reflect on why Fox News "Senior Judicial Analyst" (and former NJ Superior Court judge) Andrew Napolitano appears to be making up phony cases to support the arguments in his new book assailing the federal judiciary. And why he hasn't seen fit to respond to my requests for a citation to the apparently bogus case he's talking about.

Posted by Eric at May 8, 2006 10:38 AM

Comments

You are right. In Mark Bradley's book, _This Astounding Close_, focusing on the Bennett Place surrender in our Tar Heel back yard, the author convincingly details how Johnston explicitly defied Jeff Davis' orders to fight on in favor of peace.

Posted by: willie p mangum at May 8, 2006 5:59 PM

The confederate armies of states west of the Mississippi, and from some states east of it (mainly Mississippi itself) did not surrender. Most of them went ot Mexico and remained there until our State Dept put extreme pressure on the post Maximillian government to force them back to the US. Once back in the states, they "melted" into their old home areas and immediately began to cause violent trouble, especially in Mississippi and Missouri. the return of these soldiers, WHO NEVER SURRENDERED, also had a lot to do with the re-writing of state constitutions in places like Texas, Arkansas, Missouri and Mississippi, to severe, jim crow laws which disenfranchised blacks and others, and the rise of the Democratic party in the south. The fact that thousands of confederate soldiers refused to surrender and went to their graves stalwartly defending this position, gives the big lie to all the southern and rebel rhetoric about honor and decency and what have you. These men remained violent, murderous outlaws, and clearly took the law into their own hands by numerous means. The T.J.Stiles book on Jesse James has some good, if in passing, coverage of all this, which I guarantee you is NOT being taught in american history classes anywhere in this country. It is too bad, since we are still living with this stinking, underhanded legacy. I met several prominent Agrarians/Fugitives over the years and have made a point to discuss this with them. While all those conversations were tense, every one I met, several men and one woman, agreed that all this was quite shameful, and the the South in general needed to own up to this disgraceful legacy. It is also worth pointing out that these 'honorable', freedom loving men sucked up to a corrupt, foreign authoritarian the entire time they were in Mexico...

Posted by: paul yamada at May 9, 2006 2:08 PM

Umm, Paul, you sound mighty angry about something that happened a long time ago. As a son of the south I have never heard the kind of vitriol you just displayed towards us, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention... and BTW, the vast majority of Southern soldiers came home and tried to rebuild their lives. And believed that Andrew Johnson would continue Lincoln's policies. But you impeached him and created Reconstruction instead. Now you still blame us. Yankee asshole.

Posted by: Jim Webb at May 17, 2006 10:10 PM